Discussion on the implications of Brexit and potential EU re-entry

Cannot be exactly as the past situation before the Brexit. So he used to say all the time, no cherry picking when Adam was chasing him down the street or even, I think, into the bakers in Brussels. Rudely. The new phrase from Barney, which I particularly enjoyed, was no Europe a la carte. It is a lovely phrase. If you want to rejoin, stick to the set menu. And that is four. That is four freedoms. And you need to take goods and you need to get services and you need to take what, what the others people and capital too. And you're not getting the rebate, which was the UK's deal where the UK got some money back from the European Union and it was hard won. But he's saying there pretty plainly if we went back in or tried to go back in, that rebate would no longer be available. I thought what was also interesting about your interview with him, Laura, and the wider interview that will be on your Sunday program, is that he was also suggesting, because you were just saying this might take a long time, that getting back in could be much quicker than getting back out. He spoke about the UK leaving 600 international agreements. It would be more rapid to rejoin because there's less divergence. But what about the trade deals that the UK has done with other countries since leaving? What about the trade deal with India? What about the trade deal with America? What about the trade. I think it's correct and I think expert opinion would mainly all agree that it would be easier to go back in because. Because that's a system that already exists, whereas coming out was about creating a whole new set of arrangements. And yet the political arguments, I can't see that happening quickly. I mean, just remember what they were like, you know, for good or for ill. The political arguments went on for years and years and years. And you cannot expect that people who were on the leave side of the argument would take sort of take this lying down, as it were. They're certainly not so far. Richard Tice from Reform suggesting that one of the big benefits of Brexit was that Britain no longer had to adhere to what he called ridiculous EU rules. And he said this rule, what Andy Banham is suggesting, but also the proposed deal that should be announced on the 20th would force us to surrender sovereignty over trade policy. And Kimi Badenoch is worrying about dynamic alignment too, and say that this could take us backwards. There's also a sort of debate around what political terrain you want to fight your battles on on. And I'd say certainly for reform, this seems to be terrain.