Discussion on Labour's Brexit Position and Economic Implications (Part 2)

People who've spoken out publicly, although before he was Prime Minister, I was just sort of searching through the archives, I found some comments from Lisa Nandi at the start of the summer. This was just after Wes Streeting had resigned as, as Health Secretary, seemingly wanting to attempt Labour members to his cause by talking about getting closer to the eu. And Lisa Nandi criticized this, saying she didn't want to reopen the circular arguments that we ended up in as a, as a country. And of course she represents a neighboring seat in Wigan to Andy Burnham. Sort of leave land really a lot of, well, not all of the northwest of England, but that part of the north west of England. There's a sort of bandwidth argument. Is this the area people really care about? If you want to really reform social care, is the EU really going to help? I suppose the sort of converse to that, the other side of the argument to that is, is that if the cost of living is the big priority for Andy Burnham, you'd argue the economy and our relationship with Europe is sort of at the heart of that. It is, but it couldn't be done quickly and there's not necessarily going to be an easy path. You know, the EU drive a very, very hard bargain. So we know that most European leaders would be pleased to have the, the UK come back in. Right. They've pretty much mainly said that on the record, although there's a clip that I bet you if this all carries on, it's going to be played again and again and again and again and again. But the Czech Prime Minister has asked, would you like the UK to come back in? And he says, yes, of course, we need more money. We're going to hear that if this debate becomes real. We are going to hear that again and again. So maybe we should play to people today, be ahead of the curve. Yes, of course we need more money. Oh, thank you. But the other thing is there's no chance that the EU would just say, sure, you can come back in same terms that you had without a big argument. Paddy has been suggesting in recent newscast that that might be possible, but from your big interview, it doesn't sound like some of those close to Brussels are that keen on the idea. So with all this in mind, we thought, who to call? Who are you going to call? Michelle Barnier. Exactly. So we did an interview with Michel Barnier, who Brexit casters knew very well and newscasters will know was the chief ligur negotiator during the whole Brexit period. And he was all very clear through that period that the UK could not just pick and choose. If you're leaving a club, you can't decide what you get to have in from the club.